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romney is gone, but he is still in the background. we have mcconnell and boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? gerri: what do you make of that analogy? >> well, that is a football analogy. we'll do that from time to time, but the reality is the speaker of the house is the speaker. the house is the majority republican, and if he is going to advance that way, that is probably in order. senator mcconnell is involved, i'm sure talking with boehner about these issues. he always has been, but you have to have the spokesman, somebody to talk to. the president is absent up here, and i hope he will come to the table. i hope we can avoid it, but a lot of it is going to ultimately be on the president's watch. gerri: i have to tell you, there are other people mia. most of the house is gone on vacation. the senate is spending all this time figuring a helmet will be able to watch lincoln and have popcorn. this is what harry reid is that the last couple of days doing. why can't we get people in the same room and try to get this thing resolved instead of just talking pas
romney is gone, but he is still in the background. we have mcconnell and boehner. who is the quarterback, mr. president? gerri: what do you make of that analogy? >> well, that is a football analogy. we'll do that from time to time, but the reality is the speaker of the house is the speaker. the house is the majority republican, and if he is going to advance that way, that is probably in order. senator mcconnell is involved, i'm sure talking with boehner about these issues. he always has...
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we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fringy party. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. >>> plus, republicans say they would change after the lek and they are. guess what? they're changing the rules. some of them are proposing to republicans in pennsylvania and three other states obama won. they're trying to eliminate the winner take all system of awarding electoral votes. that way republicans could win electoral votes in states they lose. >>> new jersey governor chris christie finally meets his idol. the man he's seen in concert more than 100 times. the governor and the boss, bruce spr
we lost because mitt romney wasn't right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fringy party. >>> also, the fiscal cliff. it's down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to...
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mitt romney had to wait a week. barack obama is the only man in washington who will give mitt romney lunch. >> stephanie: that's right. nineteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: join the partytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytyty [ male announcer ] born from the elements. ♪ ♪ destined to take them over. the uconnect command center with sirius xm satellite radio in the new 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪ ♪ he funk soul -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ check it out now, the funk soul -- >> announcer: stephanie miller. ♪ >> stephanie: i'm in a really good place spiritual, so please [ inaudible ]. [ applause ] >> stephanie: what was that mean? to me it means thank
mitt romney had to wait a week. barack obama is the only man in washington who will give mitt romney lunch. >> stephanie: that's right. nineteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: join the partytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytytyty [ male announcer ] born from the elements. ♪ ♪ destined to take them over. the uconnect command center with sirius xm satellite radio in the new 2013 ram 1500. engineered...
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. >> i don't -- do i look like mitt romney to you. i don't have $10,000 in my wallet. >> like the guys from trading places. >> he's going to be back on here and when a deal is made there's going to be greenery behind him, closer to christmas, that's how these deals happen, they happen fast at the last minute. >> you think pre-christmas. >> probably 24th, 23rd in there. >> i think after the 27th. >> maybe after the 27th. i think before. because they want to get out of town and don't want to come back. these deals happen at the last minute, when the pressure is the highest. it's an idiotic way to govern ourselves, make the market unhappy but they're going to get out of deal. tax rates will go up. republicans might let a vote go through on a bill that, you know, extends all the middle-class tax cuts, lets the top 2% expire. say it's a democrat bill, democrats mainly supported it with moderate republicans and senate approve that and throw in unemployment benefits and other stuff. >> and john boehner can't afford to say there's progress be
. >> i don't -- do i look like mitt romney to you. i don't have $10,000 in my wallet. >> like the guys from trading places. >> he's going to be back on here and when a deal is made there's going to be greenery behind him, closer to christmas, that's how these deals happen, they happen fast at the last minute. >> you think pre-christmas. >> probably 24th, 23rd in there. >> i think after the 27th. >> maybe after the 27th. i think before. because they want...
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i believe that if governor romney talk about fiscal issues with real solutions and not had the social issues cloud the tenets of the campaign would of been very different and it is not always allow corley favorable but we are $16 trillion in debt and need real reform or for our country goes bankrupt. >> i agree with you on the dependency picture because the objective of the democrats over many decades certainly the current democratic party is to expand government as far as fast as possible, the object of of that is to expand dependency on government as fast as possible and the ultimate objective of that is to create permanent democrat voting majority. if they can get to the kids and lock them into dependency early then they have got them for life. >> absolutely. the college student loans. they're trying to make it easier and expansion and kids don't understand that their money has to come from somewhere. as one of my friends but i got my free obama money to go to school. it makes me sick because they don't understand it somebody has to pay for. kids overwhelmingly support free contrac
i believe that if governor romney talk about fiscal issues with real solutions and not had the social issues cloud the tenets of the campaign would of been very different and it is not always allow corley favorable but we are $16 trillion in debt and need real reform or for our country goes bankrupt. >> i agree with you on the dependency picture because the objective of the democrats over many decades certainly the current democratic party is to expand government as far as fast as...
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mitt romney raised nearly $86 million in the last few weeks before the election alone. both president obama and romney race a billion dollars. >> president barack the obamas strategic david axelrod had his trademark mustache shaved today on msnbc after the coast of morning joe helped raise $1 million for his epilepsy charity. axelrod, and his facial hair, appeared frequently on news shows and there he is with his shaved off-stashed and on the right, before it was shaved, a look at his beard for decades. he said that he would shave the moustache he won for 40 years on live tv if obama lost pennsylvania, minnesota or michigan in the november 6th election. obama 1 pennsylvania, minnesota, michigan and florida, but a xelro sayd he was still shave his mustache if his charity raise $1 million by the end of november. his daughter, lauren, has epilepsy, which is a brain disorder in which a person has repeated seizures over time. >> welcome back. the top stories we're following at this hour. a man is in critical condition this morning after falling from the upper deck of oakland
mitt romney raised nearly $86 million in the last few weeks before the election alone. both president obama and romney race a billion dollars. >> president barack the obamas strategic david axelrod had his trademark mustache shaved today on msnbc after the coast of morning joe helped raise $1 million for his epilepsy charity. axelrod, and his facial hair, appeared frequently on news shows and there he is with his shaved off-stashed and on the right, before it was shaved, a look at his...
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mitt romney had to wait a week. barack obama is the only man in washington who will give mitt romney lunch. >> stephanie: that's right. nineteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: join the party. 1-800-steph-1-2. then given a delicious design? a toaster strudel. pillsbury toaster strudel. so delicious...so fun. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees like our tender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. salads, sandwiches, and more. cook what you love and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's
mitt romney had to wait a week. barack obama is the only man in washington who will give mitt romney lunch. >> stephanie: that's right. nineteen minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: join the party. 1-800-steph-1-2. then given a delicious design? a toaster strudel. pillsbury toaster strudel. so delicious...so fun. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees like our tender snow crab...
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republican challenger mitt romney still has a sizable amount of money in the bank. his campaign says it raised almost $86 million in the final weeks before the election and just after. still $24 million in the bank as of november 26. but much of that money is expected to go to pre-election expenses. >>> we have an upside surprise for washington this morning. the latest jobs report shows 146 thousand how jobs were added last month. and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. the lowest in four years. for some perspective on this, i'm joined now by rutgers university professor and info informer former labor department leader bill rogers in dallas. good morning, bill. on the outset -- >> good morning. >> -- this is pretty positive. pretty positive report. give me your perspective. >> sure. it is very positive given what we were -- what we thought we were going to be getting. we thought -- we were going to have the effects of superstorm sandy. we thought we were going on have some of the effects of the fiscal cliff affecting consumer confidence. investment behavior. so give
republican challenger mitt romney still has a sizable amount of money in the bank. his campaign says it raised almost $86 million in the final weeks before the election and just after. still $24 million in the bank as of november 26. but much of that money is expected to go to pre-election expenses. >>> we have an upside surprise for washington this morning. the latest jobs report shows 146 thousand how jobs were added last month. and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7%. the lowest in...
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>> you would have to elect romney to do that. you're not going to extend the bush tax cuts for the high end. >> for another minute. >> not even for a milliseconmil. >> the republicans want to bargain away and let taxes go up by the end of the year and have the big negotiations occur next year when the president will want even more increases in taxes. >> let me ask a different question and it's sort of the -- >> and then we got to go. >> here's the opportunity for the president to eclipse the whole thing, i don't think he's going to but he could eclipse the whole scene. let's not relitigate '01 and '03 let's bridge to tax reform and move forward. the senate democrats not answering their phones are the ones to ask about this one. >> congressman, thank you for being on. >>> the final countdown to the jobs report. stick around. ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional valu
>> you would have to elect romney to do that. you're not going to extend the bush tax cuts for the high end. >> for another minute. >> not even for a milliseconmil. >> the republicans want to bargain away and let taxes go up by the end of the year and have the big negotiations occur next year when the president will want even more increases in taxes. >> let me ask a different question and it's sort of the -- >> and then we got to go. >> here's the...
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it appeared in mitt romney's plan. and that caught the eye of a politician. he said he he has demonstrated when he stepped into government that he could work in a difficult environment, take good ideas like private health insurance and apply them to the need to have everyone insured. they came up with the idea an alternative and they made it the law in massachusetts and got democrats to embrace it. for a thinktank that is the dream. today both the foundation and the new president agree that the individual mandate is not just about policy, it is terrible no good constitutional policy. their idea. now horrible and only judged that way until they began endorsing it. flip-flopping to try and make health care reform. i don't want to call it his job, but it is not shocking. it is what you do. but it is not what you do if you are a thinkingtank. his ascension to the head of the foundation is both a perfect match and a disturbing one. they are where the politicians get their ideas and where the media figures look to get an informed take on whether something make sens
it appeared in mitt romney's plan. and that caught the eye of a politician. he said he he has demonstrated when he stepped into government that he could work in a difficult environment, take good ideas like private health insurance and apply them to the need to have everyone insured. they came up with the idea an alternative and they made it the law in massachusetts and got democrats to embrace it. for a thinktank that is the dream. today both the foundation and the new president agree that the...
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donald trump, mitt romney genuflected to that guy in the campaign. let the congressman talk. let j.c. talk. i don't know how you react to that. i want to know. >> chris, on the birther thing, i think that's a losing issue. >> why do the republicans push it? >> i can't speak for republicans. you don't hear me talking -- >> i think you want to chair the party. >> that's the reason -- >> you're going to have to speak for these clowns. >> for that reason. but, you know, you have to carry baggage of democrats that i have heard you over the years disagree with them. >> i have. >> i do think that there has to be a different tone -- >> do you agree these are dog whistles, these are signals to people we don't like black presidents, food stamps and -- >> the birther thing -- >> but the food stamps, the dependency message. >> i think it's unfair for john -- to paint with a broad brush and say that all republicans agree -- >> sununu was one of the number one surrogates they were putting out, and he was all over the place. >> but, chris, i was critical of the romney folks. they had no div
donald trump, mitt romney genuflected to that guy in the campaign. let the congressman talk. let j.c. talk. i don't know how you react to that. i want to know. >> chris, on the birther thing, i think that's a losing issue. >> why do the republicans push it? >> i can't speak for republicans. you don't hear me talking -- >> i think you want to chair the party. >> that's the reason -- >> you're going to have to speak for these clowns. >> for that reason....
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and mitt romney won the state by a 3 to 2 margin over president obama. in fact, democrats have not won a statewide office in texas since 1994. 1994. bi with democratic-leaning hispanic growing to 38% of the state population, you wonder: is the crimson tide receding? coming to us with an answer we hope is wayne slater the senior political writer for the dallas morning news. wayne is joining us from austin. wayne, world cup inside the war room. >> great to be with you governor. >> all right. so do you think texas could really go blue? >> it looks that way. the only question is not whether texas is going to move to purple and then blue but when. i think 2014, as some democrats suggest, when rick perry, the aforementioned rick perry is up for reelection is probably too early. all of the signs here if we really talk to the smart guys on the republican -- democrat side suggest by 2016, 2018, you very well may see a democrat or democrats begin to win statewide e elections for the first time since you correctly said first time since 1994. >> okay. is rick perry
and mitt romney won the state by a 3 to 2 margin over president obama. in fact, democrats have not won a statewide office in texas since 1994. 1994. bi with democratic-leaning hispanic growing to 38% of the state population, you wonder: is the crimson tide receding? coming to us with an answer we hope is wayne slater the senior political writer for the dallas morning news. wayne is joining us from austin. wayne, world cup inside the war room. >> great to be with you governor. >> all...
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show know ann coulter was right about the election when she said if the republican ares vote for mitt romney they would lose and now she is right again. >> the question is, are they going to raise taxes on everyone? >> they will push all of that and go to the senate and we will lose. >> why are we not here? >> it is the critical question. congress has to be here. >> why are we not here? >> the nation's finances are in a political cliff. >> republican ares are over the barrel are. >> obama is not letting up. >> this is a solvable problem. >> they are waving a white flag. >> in the 20 second sound byte world in which we live, that is the take away. >> they will be pushing that and it will go to the senate and we will lose. >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> we lost the election, sean. this is a solvable problem. >> he is not budging. >> obama is not letting up. >> there is no hard deal on the table yet. >> this is a dangerous game. >> they don't believe republicans are going over the cliff. >> let's go over the cliff. >> are they going to raise taxes on everyone? >> they will be push ping
show know ann coulter was right about the election when she said if the republican ares vote for mitt romney they would lose and now she is right again. >> the question is, are they going to raise taxes on everyone? >> they will push all of that and go to the senate and we will lose. >> why are we not here? >> it is the critical question. congress has to be here. >> why are we not here? >> the nation's finances are in a political cliff. >> republican...
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here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture sheldon adelson as you know tycoon to bankroll the romney campaign is coming to washington even though his man isn't in the white house why is adelson meeting with republican lawmakers does he have ulterior motives and. today hundreds of low wage workers took to the streets in new york city protesting for better working conditions and better salaries we'll talk to someone who took part in today's events asking where he sees the fight for a living wage going from here and later in the show we'll have a your take my take lives segment your chance to call in and ask a question or make a comment drive on the air. head first you don't succeed bing bing again you have the republicans top oligarchy foreign casino magnate sheldon adelson is already offering to fund the next election for republicans apparently to protect himself from criminal prosecution adelson spent one hundred fifty million dollars on republicans in the two thousand and twelve election more than anyone in american election history and now he's promising to spend double that amount
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since mitt romney's big loss last month the gop is in trouble. like the jets. infighting and losses is a problem. while the republicans haven't quite experienced their own butt fumble yet, they might not be far off. the jets last game of the season is december 30th. one day before the fiscal deadline. they have time. jets, you have time to triumph. time to look at where you are and where you want to be. there. no buts about that. anderson cooper "360" starts now. >>> erin, thanks. >>> good evening, everyone. we begin tonight as we do every night keeping them honest. not taking sides for pulling for democrats or republicans. you can get that on plenty of cable channels. real reporting. finding the truth. calling out hypocrisy or a baffling case of flip flopping. we've been doing some digging on a story we reported on last night, frankly. it gets stranger and stranger. stay with me. it is basically weird. on tuesday, the senate rejected a u.s. treaty aimed at protecting the rights of disabled people around the world. it is modeled on the americans for disability
since mitt romney's big loss last month the gop is in trouble. like the jets. infighting and losses is a problem. while the republicans haven't quite experienced their own butt fumble yet, they might not be far off. the jets last game of the season is december 30th. one day before the fiscal deadline. they have time. jets, you have time to triumph. time to look at where you are and where you want to be. there. no buts about that. anderson cooper "360" starts now. >>> erin,...
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and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not jusn
and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not jusn
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and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not justin bieber. i'm talking about this one. ♪ i am so in love with you >> and he's at it again tonight. after lighting the national christmas tree, he had some
and mitt romney's tough year just got tougher. look at this snub. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain ♪ >> and perhaps the biggest snub of all, not justin bieber. i'm talking about this one. ♪ i am so in love with you >> and he's at it again tonight. after lighting the national christmas tree, he had some
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took 12 suburban milwaukee women, some of whom voted for the president, some of whom voted for mitt romney, and he asked them what they thought about the fiscal cliff. take a look. >> time to sharpen your pencils and get over yourselves. >> be realistic and stop being political. >> i think they're all -- because they're not getting together. don't be democrats, don't be republicans. they're american citizens. work together to get the work done. >> so that's the clear message, wolf. you understand there was a huge gender gap for democrats in this last elections. republicans have to look at that and say, okay, we have to get something done. but let me add this. when peter hart actually laid out on the table here are the choices you have to make on spending and here are the choices you have to make on taxes, they had a little bit more difficult time in deciding what to do. so they began to realize the extent of the difficulty in cutting any real deal. >> yeah. not belittling the difficulty. these are tough, tough issues. but the stakes are really, really important right now. there is a little
took 12 suburban milwaukee women, some of whom voted for the president, some of whom voted for mitt romney, and he asked them what they thought about the fiscal cliff. take a look. >> time to sharpen your pencils and get over yourselves. >> be realistic and stop being political. >> i think they're all -- because they're not getting together. don't be democrats, don't be republicans. they're american citizens. work together to get the work done. >> so that's the clear...
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conservatives are that president obama was re-elected for another four years and he worked hard to try to help romney get elected, help republicans and it's a source of frustration. a different challenge for him running a major think tank in washington and let's see w he does. >> for the time being it doesn't change the balance of power as the republicans aren't in control of the senate. >> there's a republican governor in south carolina and so she'll name someone in the short-term. i assume that's how it will work. once there's another election, i assume a republican will fill that seat. >> and i know you'll have much more on the fiscal cliff and any developments that hopefully we'll get. we're hoping for something any day. shreds. any shreds that we can get. live starting at 4:00 p.m. eastern. good to see you, wolf. thanks. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed t
conservatives are that president obama was re-elected for another four years and he worked hard to try to help romney get elected, help republicans and it's a source of frustration. a different challenge for him running a major think tank in washington and let's see w he does. >> for the time being it doesn't change the balance of power as the republicans aren't in control of the senate. >> there's a republican governor in south carolina and so she'll name someone in the short-term....
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the majority of romney voters on exit polls supported that position. so this is not just dealing with boehner. it's dealing with the american people. and the most important thing is to get a long-term component of the plan and the election results favor him, number 1. number 2 january 1st comes we put a bill on the floor, we quote lower taxes because we couldn't provide tax relief at that point for 98% of americans, and there's no way they would vote against that. >> stephanie: this raising the debt ceiling debacle he said is not a game i'm going to play again. >> we blew it last time. and if you remember the republicans for the first time in the history of the country, literally started playing russian roulette with america's credit, and it was such brinksmanship that we ended up having the markets panic and had the fist downgrade in the history of our country. and that cost billions of dollars to taxpayers. in the past both parties have grandstanded on the debt ceiling increase. the out of power party always using it to make their criticisms of the p
the majority of romney voters on exit polls supported that position. so this is not just dealing with boehner. it's dealing with the american people. and the most important thing is to get a long-term component of the plan and the election results favor him, number 1. number 2 january 1st comes we put a bill on the floor, we quote lower taxes because we couldn't provide tax relief at that point for 98% of americans, and there's no way they would vote against that. >> stephanie: this...
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that the republicans so loved during the bush years and what they wanted to create again with governor romney. so, mr. president, i'd be happy to take a look at the proposal that the president -- that my friend, the republican leader, has shown us. if we can come up with something like we did when they created this other furor by refusing to increase the debt where we had an ability to come here and have a couple of votes to determine if we were going to increase it, if that's what they want to do again, i'd be happy to seriously take a look at that and report to the white house and my caucus. but until then, i object. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: objection having been heard. mr. mcconnell: mr. president? the presiding officer: the minority leader. mr. mcconnell: my friend the majority leader indicates there is some confusion about who is the quarterback on the republican side. that is of course quite common when you don't have the white house. but there's no doubt about who the quarterback is on the democratic side. the quarterback on the democratic side is the presid
that the republicans so loved during the bush years and what they wanted to create again with governor romney. so, mr. president, i'd be happy to take a look at the proposal that the president -- that my friend, the republican leader, has shown us. if we can come up with something like we did when they created this other furor by refusing to increase the debt where we had an ability to come here and have a couple of votes to determine if we were going to increase it, if that's what they want to...
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caller: i held my nose and voted for romney. if youonservative, but ask me if i believe in abortion, i do not think it is anyone's business but the woman and her god. i think republicans are run around too much by the religious right. i think where people could -- should become independence. -- independents. you have got to think common sense in this day and time. you're not -- you cannot keep holding on to your democrat or republican party. host: that is dana in oceanside, california. san antonio, texas, a democrat. caller: i was calling about the income tax. not just getting free money, having babies. host: our next call is anjou in marlborough, massachusetts. line 4 independents. -- in robert, massachusetts. line for independents. caller: it is an american problem, and all americans need to step up and help to fix it. for me, i'm willing to pay more taxes if you show me that you're doing the right thing. maybe somehow tie it to a balanced budget amendment. all we hear is talking about increasing taxes or reducing withholdings
caller: i held my nose and voted for romney. if youonservative, but ask me if i believe in abortion, i do not think it is anyone's business but the woman and her god. i think republicans are run around too much by the religious right. i think where people could -- should become independence. -- independents. you have got to think common sense in this day and time. you're not -- you cannot keep holding on to your democrat or republican party. host: that is dana in oceanside, california. san...
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>> because they know that if they elect romney, that's not going to come to an end. they're not going to suddenly -- >> that's baked into the structure of the american economy? >> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost religious and ideological, how fervently that belief is and how common that is among people who make a ton of money. >> it's one of the few times that you find a vague semblance of ideology in these people. because they're very practical, most of the time. whatever works in terms of making money is what they'll all choose. but you're right, sometimes even when you show them the numbers and say, listen, recognizing unio
>> because they know that if they elect romney, that's not going to come to an end. they're not going to suddenly -- >> that's baked into the structure of the american economy? >> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk...
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based upon the economy primarily but romney spent a lot of time and money there. but what did the -- what message that the president brought to florida sueded for him? >> i'm not sure if it's the president's message. it's the message that we need to do a better job as a movement. not just the republican party. those who believe in limited government and preenterprise have to do a better and more consistent job of explaining to people why free enterprise is better for them. >> bill: elected you in florida. they elected governor scott. both of you guys are conservative smaller government people. this is why it's so confusing. because you elect you. you elect scott. now they did elect liberal senator there and they're all over the place. i just don't know why florida, virginia, ohio, colorado -- colorado, i kind of know. why the republican message didn't resonate. i don't understand why the republican message did not resonate in those states. >> well, i can't speak to those other states in detail but i can tell you about florida that there is a tremendous amount of a
based upon the economy primarily but romney spent a lot of time and money there. but what did the -- what message that the president brought to florida sueded for him? >> i'm not sure if it's the president's message. it's the message that we need to do a better job as a movement. not just the republican party. those who believe in limited government and preenterprise have to do a better and more consistent job of explaining to people why free enterprise is better for them. >> bill:...
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romney lost. >> damn it. i guess it's time i explained to these good people the upcoming fiscal cliff. think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it's just common sense. furthermore, rich people feel things more deeply than the common man. >> well, the rich are hardly the only ones to suffer from a fiscal cliff. did you see the book? nate silver "can't add" and some binders full of women. >>> alan simpson has joined forces with can kicks back, trying to get young people to recruit their friends and use social media to encourage congress to come to a deficit reduction deal. there's alan simpson doing his part with a homage to internet sensation gangnam style. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and tweeting your first world problems and getting on youtube so you can get gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> and start using those social media skills to go out and sign people up on this baby, take part or get taken apart, boy thes
romney lost. >> damn it. i guess it's time i explained to these good people the upcoming fiscal cliff. think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it's just common sense. furthermore, rich people feel things more deeply than the common man. >> well, the rich are hardly the only ones to suffer from a fiscal cliff. did you see the book? nate silver "can't add" and some binders full of women....
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that came up with mitt romney. his effective tax rate was so low. he was paying the capital gains tax instead of income tax so was effective tax rate was 13% or 14%. the stepped-up basis is an important point as well. you pay taxes on capital gains tax, it is based on the value of the estate when you inherited it. host: the estate tax or the capital gains tax? guest: the estate tax. host: if it's an asset, you pay capital gains. guest: right. host: we have this comment on twitter from james. guest: corporations would say the businesses are already being taxed. folk should not be taxed for investing in their business. host: double taxation. guest: that is the argument. when people die, they are being taxed again. that is the essence of the argument against the estate tax. host: can you start over? caller: a quick question about the comments of the 401(k). i used to work for a cpa firm. i understand they are income tax deferred instruments. when you take it out, the tax you pay is income tax. the assumption is the rate would be lower. let's say the ra
that came up with mitt romney. his effective tax rate was so low. he was paying the capital gains tax instead of income tax so was effective tax rate was 13% or 14%. the stepped-up basis is an important point as well. you pay taxes on capital gains tax, it is based on the value of the estate when you inherited it. host: the estate tax or the capital gains tax? guest: the estate tax. host: if it's an asset, you pay capital gains. guest: right. host: we have this comment on twitter from james....
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and they would ask people about obama's stance on the issues but then they would say that those were romney's stances on the issues and obama supporters would say yeah that was a really terrible idea as you know one of them was about drones and all this korea got a lot of times i agree right but then once they revealed that it was obama's views in the people were like oh well you know obama can get a pass oh so i think there's been plenty of studies to show just the fact that on either side most people really don't understand what they're talking about on the you know i don't i don't entirely disagree with but one of the things that came out of the public policy poll that was most fascinating was that when they asked people if they thought the simpson bowles was a good idea thirty nine percent of americans said yes and then they create this this thing it was because bowles was never elected to anything he was just a clinton staffer in fact he got knocked down twice he twice he was defeated i don't know why these guys represent anybody but anyhow they said put out a burns because they used to
and they would ask people about obama's stance on the issues but then they would say that those were romney's stances on the issues and obama supporters would say yeah that was a really terrible idea as you know one of them was about drones and all this korea got a lot of times i agree right but then once they revealed that it was obama's views in the people were like oh well you know obama can get a pass oh so i think there's been plenty of studies to show just the fact that on either side...